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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 4:29 pm

I must be the crazy one then, 'cause I swear that to me her hair is looking like it is wet in that scene.
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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 4:33 pm

It's possible it is just spliced together (or whatever it is they do) to make it look that way. Because that new scene has to be when Castle is confessing everything to her. And he's wearing a blue shirt. When she shows up at the door in the promo and moves to kiss him... she's wearing the same clothes but is soaking wet and he's wearing a red shirt.

Unless of course she's shows up at his door soaking wet twice to finish off that conversation but I don't think so.


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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 4:35 pm

Yeah, my eyes must be playing some evil trick on me.
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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 4:36 pm

I THINK the wet Beckett they show right after Castle is all "Open your eyes and see them, right here" I believe is Beckett outside of his apartment. Wall kinda looks the same there. And... EDIT: plus, in the new promo, she's wearing the white shirt sans jacket then when they cut to wet Beckett after that line, she's wet and wearing a jacket.


Studying walls...

New promo:



notice the wall

And better screen shot with red shirt:




Sorry I'm all detective mode here re-assuring myself that the kiss and all that is them making up after that fight and thus the episode will end with them together. weeee

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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 4:41 pm

It isn't the same wall. That I can tell. This is her outside his apartment. That was her in his bedroom.

Maybe I'm not kinda crazy and he changed the shirt when he went to his bedroom?
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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 4:51 pm

Then he changes clothes really fast.

I found a scene with this front door so it definitely is not his front door unless they changed things.

I watched Linchpin to see what Castle's bedroom looks like and ... eeeh... no. Unless it is a wall they dont show which is very very likely. Anyway, where the heck is this wall Razz


EDIT: ::snickers:: if you're right and he does change shirts... shouldn't have bothered Castle cause it is coming right back off!!

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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 4:58 pm

I saw a post in tumblr with a picture of castle's bedroom, the wall and everything looked pretty much alike, even the light that we can see.
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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 5:08 pm

Oh I'm sure that kiss or some kiss definitely takes place in his bedroom Smile


EDIT: This is a horrible week for the finale to be taking place... this is the kind of things that happen when I have NOTHING to do. I go crazy.

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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 5:29 pm

Yeah, me too. What's confusing me is that in the actual kiss his shirt seems to be blue again. Maybe the red shirt was a studio screw up or something?
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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 5:32 pm

See I can't tell what color his shirt is in that kiss. If it is blue, then there's going to be quite a few scenes in his apartment. I'm not sure that's possible though. The kiss has to take place after he opens the door and she's standing there all wet. That light we see in the kiss could even be the light behind her when he opens the door for all we know. At least in my opinion.


Which still may be the door to his bedroom. I don't think it is the door to his apartment. I found the door to his apartment and it looks nothing like that.

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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 5:45 pm

The studio screw up stands either way...
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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 5:46 pm

I will laugh if he's wearing a blue shirt one second and a red the next. happy It's happened before on shows...

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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 5:50 pm

Exactly. Here in Brazil there is a program only with that kind of stuff.

You never know...
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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 5:52 pm

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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 7:29 pm

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I can't BEGIN to analyze all the shirts! Very Happy. However, I will say this: there has to be a major time lapse between when Castle says the 'I Love you" and she's in the white shirt and when she comes back all wet in the black jacket, because she WEARING the black jacket during the take down when she nearly falls off the roof. That has to happen BEFORE the scene where's she's been out in the rain and the white shirt is closer to the beginnof the show when she's just finding things out. Hope that helps. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 7:44 pm

Well, the kiss definitely takes place in his bedroom. And so does their discussion when Castle's secret comes out. That last sneak peek is getting me confused though. It probably takes place in Castle's doorstep and Castle's wearing a blue shirt. the Beckett shows up at his bedroom and he's wearing a red shirt and when they kiss it seems to me like he's shirt's blue again. I really think my studio error is right. Because, honestly, I've got no other explanation and normally I have at least one when I look for it.
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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 8:24 pm

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I can't BEGIN to analyze all the shirts! Very Happy. However, I will say this: there has to be a major time lapse between when Castle says the 'I Love you" and she's in the white shirt and when she comes back all wet in the black jacket, because she WEARING the black jacket during the take down when she nearly falls off the roof. That has to happen BEFORE the scene where's she's been out in the rain and the white shirt is closer to the beginnof the show when she's just finding things out. Hope that helps. Very Happy

Nope. Now I am REALLY confused. Because she's wearing the long sleeved blue turtleneck from the beginning of the episode when she goes off the roof?

It's because my eyes aren't that good. I assumed since she was wearing something long sleeved and around her neck it was that blue shirt. Well then. Just throws a wrench into everything.

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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 9:07 pm

Nothing new but still cool:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150755397863204

I take that back. I was right. It is his apartment door he's opening. Unless he has some kind of number or letter on his bedroom door Razz Of course this proves nothing other than the fact that I was right about the door. LOL

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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 9:29 pm

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Well, the kiss definitely takes place in his bedroom. And so does their discussion when Castle's secret comes out. That last sneak peek is getting me confused though. It probably takes place in Castle's doorstep and Castle's wearing a blue shirt. the Beckett shows up at his bedroom and he's wearing a red shirt and when they kiss it seems to me like he's shirt's blue again. I really think my studio error is right. Because, honestly, I've got no other explanation and normally I have at least one when I look for it.

No. The discussion between Castle and Beckett with the "I Love You" takes place in Beckett's apartment. The giveaway is the painting.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/home_blog/2011/09/castle-set-design.html







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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 9:30 pm

fairytales wrote:
Nothing new but still cool:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150755397863204

I take that back. I was right. It is his apartment door he's opening. Unless he has some kind of number or letter on his bedroom door Razz Of course this proves nothing other than the fact that I was right about the door. LOL

The title of the video is "CASKETT", and it was on the official ABC Castle Facebook page.
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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 9:47 pm

Yeah that is where I linked it from....


Anyway, nice catch on Beckett's place. I was wondering about that painting. Didn't look like Castle's place but then I thought maybe it was a room I hadn't remembered.

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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 9:48 pm

The ABC Caskett Video




Interesting song choice that accompanies the video. Come on if you are trying to tell us something ABC you don't need to be so blatant in picking 'Head over Heels"


Here are the lyrics that are being sung in the background.

"Something happens and I'm head over heels
I never find out till I'm head over heels
Something happens and I'm head over heels
Ah don't take my heart
Don't break my heart
Don't throw it away"



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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 10:05 pm

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The ABC Caskett Video




Interesting song choice that companies the video. Come on if you are trying to tell us something ABC you don't need to be so blatant in picking 'Head over Heels"


Here are the lyrics that are being sung in the background.



"Something happens and I'm head over heels
I never find out till I'm head over heels
Something happens and I'm head over heels
Ah don't take my heart
Don't break my heart
Don't throw it away"

In THIS case, I think ABC DOES need to be blatant. There have been so many false alarms and shows that say one thing <cough-season 4 Bones finale-cough> and don't follow through that I think it's smart for ABC to really hit people over the head with it. ESPECIALLY for viewers who may have gotten impatient and started drifting away.
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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 10:45 pm

http://www.wetpaint.com/castle/articles/castle-showrunner-andrew-marlowe-teases-castle-and-becketts-emotionally-messy-finale-moment-exclusive

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Wetpaint Entertainment: So we can expect a big Castle/Beckett episode?
Andrew Marlowe: Yes. Castle and Beckett have been talking around a lot of stuff for a long time and they’re each been keeping significant secrets from each other and it’s not just how they feel but Castle having made this deal for Beckett’s life with a mysterious character and Beckett knowing that he said, “I love you,” but not knowing that he knows — in the finale all that gets put on the table and they’re forced to confront it in an open and honest way. And I think the fans have really been craving for the two of these people to have that dialogue, have them confront it directly, and this is the moment where we allow them to. And then of course, it’s colored by the fact that each one has kind of betrayed the other and they have to deal with those issues as well.


quote]When it comes to the development of these two characters, were you always building towards this episode or did it just happen to feel right at this point?
This season has actually been a trajectory that we had clarity on about two-thirds of the way through last season, when we decided to end last season the way we did, with the death of Montgomery and Castle saying, “I love you” to Beckett. I think we talked about how it was always my intent to deal with the situation from Beckett’s point and not have her really not remember, and not do a TV fake-out. Once we knew that we were laying those cards out on the table I knew that I was going to land here at the end of this season and we knew what moment we were working for, to get to at the end of the season.[/quote]


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Can you tease the big emotional cliffhanger?
When we get to the end of the episode we have to deal with the culmination of all the cards that we’ve put on the table, all the secrets coming out, and in this episode we don’t fully resolve the case issues and those end up hanging over our heads when we get to the end. And, I think, in a really interesting and compelling way given the choices that all the characters have made throughout the piece.
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PostSubject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers   Fri May 04, 2012 11:05 pm

Okay, now I am very confused. If the discussion takes place in Beckett's place, so does the kiss. See for yourselves:





I mean, look at the lights. Any thoughts on why Castle was at Beckett's place?
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