Kiss happens at Castle's because she shows up at his door soaking wet. I have no explanation for the light other than that it just LOOKS like the same light. And it might not at all since the second light is surrounded by blue and the first one by darkness. It's probably a reaction the lights have on the camera.
Castle probably shows up at Becketts place because he realizes he needs to tell her the truth... it could also be because of their "date"
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Yeah, maybe. But what confused me was that in Linchpin when that CIA agent (what was her name?) showed up at Castle's the lights had the same effect, so yeah, you're probably right.
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Sun May 06, 2012 9:00 am
dstorm wrote:
Beckstle wrote:
Thanks Fairytales and dstorm for posting that last clip. WOW! Great performance there by Nathan. Heartbreaking. I'm going add this link: http://kate-beckett.netcastle because it has an interview with Marlowe talking about the season finale and the overall trajectory of the show. One tibbit I found interesting: he knew A YEAR AN A HALF AGO, where and how he wanted season four to end. Now, THAT is planning storystructure and character development!
I like this part of the interview;
Quote :
When we talked about how we were going to end Season 3, this was pretty much how I expected to end Season 4. There are some course-corrections along the way, like, “OK, given where the characters are, if we do this with that character, I think the fans would see it as a huge betrayal.” For instance, in “The Limey” — let’s say the last scene had been Beckett and the British cop going to bed together. That would’ve been too much of a violation, given where Castle and Beckett are. Perfectly understandable, in terms of human nature — she’s mad at him, now she’s going to go out and get some revenge sex — but I think given where the characters were and what they were dealing with, that would be something that a certain segment of our audience would consider unforgivable. So maybe Beckett went out, had a cup of coffee and poured her heart out to the guy, or maybe she went out and got laid — I’ll leave that to the fans’ imaginations. But I think we’ve been very true to our characters. There were points in the season where our fans have been frustrated, but they were supposed to be frustrated.
For me it tells me that in Andrew's mind nothing happen between Beckett and the British Detective. If it had, he would consider that a betrayal of the characters given where she was. However, Andrew is more than willing to let fans decide that for themselves, and given what happen in the episodes that follow it is safe to say that nothing happen.
Spoken like a true guy. All it tells me is that Andrew new if he went there it would upset "a certain segment" of viewers. The course correction was for fans, not necessarily Andrew.
Honestly, I do like the way he did it because I could definitely see it going either way. If she thinks he's banging the blonde, I can totally see her going, "Why the hell not?" with the Limey. I certainly can see it as her INTENTION when she made the phone call. However, I can also see her ending up not going through with in, in part because the guy's character is perceptive. Maybe they start making out and he gets she's just not there. Or maybe she does go through with it only to find out just how much that doesn't work for her anymore. I think Andrew's choice is good because truthfully what happened that night isn't all that important to the story. We didn't need to know the exacts any more than we needed to see Castle in bed with the blond bimbo.
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Sun May 06, 2012 3:43 pm
The song "In My Veins" by Andrew Belle will be on Always:
“Beckett is at her most raw when she’s dealing with her mother’s murder,” Marlowe tells TVLine. “That’s when she’s most emotionally vulnerable, even from the first time we touched this ground in Episode 10 of our first season, where Castle starts looking into [Johanna's] murder and causes their first rift. And at the end of Episode 213, ‘Sucker Punch,’ we have a very nice scene where Beckett accepts Castle’s presence – like, ‘I kind of want you around. I like you pulling my pigtails.’ Their emotional trajectory has always been intertwined [with the Johanna Beckett case].” The big difference this time around, however, is that to temper Kate’s dog-with-a-bone nature when it comes to this case, Rick may have to reveal what he knows – that she will get herself good and dead – if she doesn’t back off. And to let loose with that secret could be devastating. “In a lot of ways, it is Rick’s greatest fear,” Marlowe says of Kate’s pursuit of the sniper who shot her. “Not only for her safety, but because it might press him to reveal something that could blow up their relationship. He’s been keeping this pretty big secret from her and he knows what the stakes are. But he also knows it’s the only way to save her life. “So that’s what we wrestle with in the finale,” the show boss continues. “Whether a relationship or even trying to have a relationship with somebody [who keeps secrets] is going to be worthwhile, and how Beckett, once she learns of that betrayal, is going to process it.”
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Mon May 07, 2012 11:28 am
More insight from Marlowe VIA a Wetpaint interview: Most of the interview is about season five, and definitely worth a read! However, this part seems pretty relevant to Always...http://www.wetpaint.com
Quote :
One of the things I’ll say about this season is, because the two characters had secrets that they were keeping from each other, there was inevitably an element of angst that entered into this season —in terms of their relationship —that we’ve paid for with a little bit of the fun in the series. That’s not to say that we didn’t have a lot of fun this year, but there were certain times we couldn’t go places that we felt would be fun to go because the characters weren’t there yet.
And I think we’re putting ourselves in a great position with how we’re ending this season to allow some of those moments to come back in a little bit stronger way next season. Inevitably, as the characters grow, as Alexis [Molly Quinn] goes to Columbia and the revelations and betrayals are put on the table, they will be able to get past some of that angst and get to a different place in their relationship that allows us to basically re-embrace our fundamental values and what people have loved about the show since the beginning. And we don’t feel like we’ve drifted very far, but we just know that we’re in a really great position to re-embrace everything that we love about the show and that the audience seems to respond to.
Sounds like the start of a real romance to me! You know, the early stages where you can't stop flirting 'cuz you're remembering what you did the night before.
OH MY to the Moonlighting curse line! THAT IS WHAT I WANNA HEAR! Take that, you so called curse! :::kicks it::
:is seeing it now and I am so nervous:: ::crosses fingers::
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 12:03 am
Andrew Marlowe proved he is Heart not Hart tonight.
Officially blown away never to be put back together. Castle is the best show on television. Bar None!
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 12:04 am
The Moonlighting Curse shall be proven as just a myth! THANK YOU!!! About dar gone time!
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 12:19 am
fairytales wrote:
The Moonlighting Curse shall be proven as just a myth! THANK YOU!!! About dar gone time!
Finally a showrunner that has a heart and wants the fans to enjoy the journey. What can we say other than thank you MilMar.
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 12:30 am
He's made me a belieeeeeeeeever
::hums song::
and dances some more.
I'm in a hotel room ... and there are crazy freshmen all around me... good thing too They'll blame the noise on them. WOOOHHOOOO
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 12:50 am
Castle : Beckett what do you want ? Beckett : You
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 1:04 am
Serioulsy. Why are there not already videos on youtube? Come on people! It's been an hour!!! GET UP OFF THE FLOOR AND UPLOAD THE ENDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please.
ask and you shall receive. ::squeals::
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 1:15 am
fairytales wrote:
Serioulsy. Why are there not already videos on youtube? Come on people! It's been an hour!!! GET UP OFF THE FLOOR AND UPLOAD THE ENDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please.
ask and you shall receive. ::squeals::
People are too busy rewatching it over and over again..
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 1:16 am
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fairytales Little Castle
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 1:16 am
I found one person who uploaded the end scene
::scratches out link::
Oh wow yours has the swing and everything. lol
Havent found their fight yet.
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 1:29 am
Also.... I thought there was suppose to be an explosion? Have they already taped the premier? o_O
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 1:31 am
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Also.... I thought there was suppose to be an explosion? Have they already taped the premier? o_O
There was an explosion, but it had to do with all the Castle fandom yelling for joy.
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 1:33 am
OK I must have been delusional. I thought there were photos. Oh well. I don't care. I'm happy. A little curious.
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 1:33 am
Castle: Beckett, what do you want? Beckett: You. [kiss] Beckett: I’m so sorry, Castle. I’m so sorry. I’m so sorry. Castle: What happened. Beckett: He got away, and I didn’t care. I almost died, and all I could think about was you. I just want you.
From EW
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 1:36 am
::finds the talk::
this moment had me near tears
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 2:42 am
Watching it again.....
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Subject: Re: 4x23 "ALWAYS" (Season Finale) Spoilers Tue May 08, 2012 3:06 am
It feels crazy to say it, but Castle and Beckett have now gone there. What made the timing right for these two now? Andrew Marlowe: Because it was absolutely time. And honestly, this was a decision that became clear to us about 2/3s of the way through last season when we made the decision of how we were ending last season. It’s impossible for Castle to say “I love you” and leave that hanging in the air and have the characters know that that’s out there and wait much longer to deal with that in an interesting and honest way.
We’re 81 episodes, we’ve done a lot of storytelling having not gone there. And my personal feeling is we were on the verge of creating very artificial mechanisms of keeping them apart. And we were on the verge of rehashing storytelling in their relationship and we were in danger of not moving forward. So we had always aimed for this as being the end [result] of this season. And when people look back on this season, they will see the rhythm and they will look at the moments where they were really frustrated and understand why we did it then and what we were going for, because we always knew we were going to end up here.
When you and I [last] talked and you said “Are you worried about strong fan reaction?” I said, “No, because I know where we’re going.” So, it really is time. And I have to tell you, it’s really exciting for all of us who write on the show, because this opens up a world of possibility in the storytelling